New VW ID.Buzz bus failing already in U.S.? Many Red flags

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July 19, 2025
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New VW ID.Buzz bus failing

Is the new VW ID.Buzz failing already in the U.S.? Slow sales and massive resale value drops are throwing up red flags already.

The VW ID.Buzz made its long-wheel base debut in 2024 to much acclaim with its unique nostalgic design of the classic Volkswagen Microbus, roomy interior, advanced technology and DC fast-charging capability and zip with a dual-motor option of 335 horsepower and up to 234 miles of range.

New VW ID. Buzz slow sales so far

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The new VW ID.Buzz looks cool, but customers seem to be giving it a hard pass. (Photo courtesy VW)

U.S. sales for the VW ID.Buzz have been anything but spectacular with VW selling only 1,162 ID.Buzz bus vans in 2024 likely due to limited supply. Globally they sold better with 29,990 vehicles.

For the first quarter of 2025, sales were better with 1,901 buses sold, yet the second quarter sales plummeted to just 564 buses sold. However, sales were affected by a 2-month long stop sale due to the recall for a rear-seat width issue.

Cars.com lists 1,646 new ID.Buzz buses for sale across the country at the time of this article.

Big drop in resale value

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It has all the latest technology and people love to see it on the road, just not in their own driveway apparently. (Photo courtesy VW)

Since the start of the year, there have been two VW ID.Buzz vans sold on BringATrailer.com and both have seen a larger than average drop in resale value. BringATrailer.com is a new or used vehicle auction website well known among car enthusiasts.

In February 7, 2025, a 2025 Volkswagen ID. Buzz 1st Edition 4Motion in Silver was sold for $66,000. It had just 172 miles on it, a clean CarFax report and a MSRP price of $72,900. That’s a loss of $6,900 or 10% on what is essentially a brand new vehicle with delivery miles.

Then on July 14, 2025, a green 2025 Volkswagen ID. Buzz 1st Edition 4Motion sold for $61,500. This one had 398 miles on it, a dual motor setup, clean CarFax and it was a one-owner vehicle from Arizona. The MSRP on this one was $72,385. That’s a $10,885 drop in resale value or 17% hit.

New vehicles, on average, depreciate 30% over 2 years, according to KBB.com with an annual mileage driven of 12,000 miles.

Limited range a concern

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It does offer the fast DC fast charging capability yet with limited range of 234 miles or less, people say that’s not enough. (Photo courtesy VW)

One of the criticisms of the VW.ID Buzz has been the limited range for the U.S. market of 234 miles for the single rear-motor or 231 miles for the dual rear-motor model.

In Europe, this range is acceptable with driving distances typically shorter.

However, in the U.S., the country is much larger and distances between cities and destinations is much greater. For a vehicle designed to be a road-trip vehicle, the range is considered very inadequate for this market.

Many people think VW should have put a V-6 engine in the van and that would have done better in the U.S. market.

Price is too high?

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It has a very spacious interior and can seat up to 7 passengers. (Photo courtesy VW)

Another criticism is the price point. The starting MSRP is $59,995 and the examples in the resale section are above $70,000.

A three-row Tesla Model Y is less than $50,000 and has 327 miles of range. Many three-row gasoline SUVs are in the $30-40k range.

A Toyota Sienna minivan starts at less than $40,000 and has 36 MPG with a hybrid powertrain.

It is hard to justify spending more money for the VW.ID Buzz and its nostalgia looks with less capability.

No EV Tax Credit and future tariffs

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The new VW ID.Buzz can haul a lot of cargo with the seats folded down. (Photo courtesy VW)

The final issue for the VW ID.Buzz in the U.S. is no Federal EV tax credit and tariffs.

While the Federal EV tax credit is going away on September 30, 2025, the VW ID. Buzz didn’t qualify for it anyway which hurt sales.

The $7,500 tax credit is a big buying reason for EVs and without it consumers are less compelled to buy them.

Why doesn’t it qualify? The VW ID.Buzz is built in Germany and the tax credit only applies to EVs built in the U.S.

Also, the U.S. announced it is considering a 30% tariff on EU produced goods coming from countries like Germany. This would raise the VW ID.Buzz price from $59,995 by $17,998 if VW just simply applied the tariff hike directly to the vehicle.

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testerdahl

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Is the new VW ID.Buzz failing already in the U.S.? Slow sales and massive resale value drops are throwing up red flags already. The VW ID.Buzz made its long-wheel base debut in 2024 to much acclaim with its unique nostalgic design of the classic Volkswagen Microbus, roomy interior, advanced technology and DC fast-charging capability and zip with a dual-motor option of 335 horsepower and up to 234 miles of range. New VW ID. Buzz slow sales so far U.S. sales for the VW ID.Buzz have been anything but spectacular with VW selling only 1,162 ID.Buzz bus vans in 2024 likely […] (read full article...)

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testerdahl

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BTW, as strange as this sounds and as much as I hate typing this as a 47-year-old man, this story idea came from a TikTok video(!). I decided to look into it.

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BTW, as strange as this sounds and as much as I hate typing this as a 47-year-old man, this story idea came from a TikTok video(!). I decided to look into it.

Too much of a niche vehicle and just not that interesting I'd guess.

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I haven't read the story yet but I remember hearing about the VW buzz coming to the US years ago my biggest takeaways are that it came to the market way later than promised and the range sucks.

That's one thing I have to give Ford credit for they strike when the market is hot. The Lightning, the Maverick. In a way they create the market. Then how fast you can respond and come to market makes or breaks you for everyone else.

All these companies that are late to the EV wagon have to be really struggling right now there's not many sales to be had there.

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All these companies that are late to the EV wagon have to be really struggling right now there's not many sales to be had there.

Once the early adopters have bought them, I just don’t see that big of a market. I know people are excited for Slate and Scout, but man I’m just struggling to see it. Maybe Scout with the EREV, but keep in mind, Scout is backed by VW. VW brought the ID.Buzz to market. So…

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Once the early adopters have bought them, I just don’t see that big of a market. I know people are excited for Slate and Scout, but man I’m just struggling to see it. Maybe Scout with the EREV, but keep in mind, Scout is backed by VW. VW brought the ID.Buzz to market. So…

Yeah it's tough because there's always lots of excitement and I don't blame people, hell I'm excited for a few of them, but as you said the early adopters buy and there just doesn't seem to be any sort of continuing sales after that. The EV market is still too niche.

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I walked around and sat in an I D Buzz at Bug Jam and thought it was just ok. It's too large to get that old school VW Bus feel and I thought it would sell better if it was in the $50 to $60 range. My take: VW is trying to sell this as a "Boutique car" instead of a volume car. You don't get broad appeal from that approach.

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The range you get for the price on the Buzz was a problem as soon as it was rolled out. Niche is right.

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I think TFL sold their ID buzz after a few months and Roman almost had to get a second job washing dishes to offset the depreciation.

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I think TFL sold their ID buzz after a few months and Roman almost had to get a second job washing dishes to offset the depreciation.

Yup. Plus they saw it at a show a couple of years ago and at that point it was already long delayed so by the time it hit the market ...the technology was way outdated and overpriced.

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I think TFL sold their ID buzz after a few months and Roman almost had to get a second job washing dishes to offset the depreciation.

Honestly I don’t know how you guys keep up with them. I’ve given up. So many channels, personalities and constant new vehicles. I guess if I wasn’t in the business, I’d have more time, but I have so things to keep track of, I just don’t have time. Unless you guys bring it up, I miss whatever the latest news is most of the time.

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